Showing posts with label Wanda Morris. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Wanda Morris. Show all posts

Wednesday, July 24, 2019

CARP, Wettlaufer and Euthanasia.

By Adrian Rhodes


CARP’s magazine Zoomer published an article in January 2019, on Elizabeth Wettlaufer, the nurse who murdered her patients while working in long-term care homes in Ontario. The article by Alex Roslin is titled: Looking at the Complete System Failure that led to the Wetlauffer Murders. Wettlaufer cited psychological reasons, in part – she was stressed because of poor working conditions. This does not excuse the murders, but it also does not allow for the use of those murders to justify better care.

Elizabeth Wettlaufer
In this political climate, to argue that better care is needed because otherwise patients will be at risk from the Wettlaufers of the world is disingenuous. Patients are already at risk in “…an environment where patients are disrespected, abused – even sometimes murdered.” This environment came about with the legal permission being given by the Canadian government for medical representatives to kill their patients.


The permission to kill is further permission to neglect. One allegation has been made that if one is approved for death, that after approval one’s pain medication is curtailed to ensure that they are competent at the time of injection. The argument has not been made, but I am sure it is in the back of many people’s minds on reading the CARP article – ‘well, at least the patient isn’t suffering’. These statements above are probably shocking, but they are also normalized in our social lives. This is because we are normalizing the act of killing.

It is expected that suffering people will demand death instead of better care. When someone demands care, this is incomprehensible. Consider the Roger Foley case: he was demanding better care and control over his care at home, and he was offered euthanasia instead. In his case, hr publicized the offer and this caused him to become a dubious celebrity as a result. In the meantime, he had doctors and nurses using presence coercion to convince him to die. This was probably because it was good for the organization: he was apparently costing the hospital $1500 per day. So it was all about the money, not the right to care as enshrined in the Charter of Rights. So it is expected that death is preferred over treatment, care or protection of other rights.

So for CARP to be lobbying for changes to care when they are the same organization that sings the virtues of euthanasia comes across as a little precious. Remember, the push is on to save money and to allow those who have dementia – as many of Wettlaufer’s victims did – to get euthanasia. There is a push to kill incompetent people and to kill children by euthanasia. And people have said that this is a virtue, particularly when we consider the responses to Sick Kids Hospital saying they would be willing to euthanize children under 18 without parental consent. The implication is that this organization will kill children in their care – and they argued that killing and letting die are the same act.

The article reported that Wettlaufer’s victim, Maureen Pickering, was given a high dose of insulin – twice. She subsequently died. The coroner’s office representative opined that her death wasn't investigated because “Her death was foreseeable, and it was expected.” Remember, MAiD can be done if “…death is reasonably foreseeable”. So we can argue that Wettlaufer was a euthanasia enthusiast by other means.

Wettlaufer slipped through the safeguards, time and again. She even talked to her friends about the killings. They did nothing. That alone should have triggered charges. The organizations involved did nothing. The care home never told the College of Nurses about Wettlaufer’s shortcomings. They said themselves that nurses were hard to come by and this is why Wettlaufer was kept on. The deaths of elderly people are expected, after all…


The article stated that one relative of a victim said, “It seems to me that all the parties are accessories.” Another family member said, “Nobody is taking any of this seriously.” This is true, but what is also significant about this CARP article is this: CARP is a pro-euthanasia organization. CARP has advocates on staff who decried what happened to those residents while establishing a glaring contradiction with their pro-euthanasia stance.

Wettlaufer got away with these deaths because no one believed that this would happen in such an active way. This is the same reason medical organizations have attempted to impose death on patients such as Candice Lewis and Roger Foley. No one believes professionals would act against the interest of patients, even when they are acting to convince those patients to die.

People aren’t that evil, they just don’t go around killing patients. Except that in Canada, we do. There is one doctor on the West Coast who has already killed over 140 people, skirting the law to do so and without sanction.

To quote the article: “It remains to be seen if the horror of Wettlaufer’s deeds will make a difference.” Yes: people who euthanize will continue, and organizations will become even more monolithic when they attempt to kill. And then the number of deaths will continue to rise.

It is interesting that CARP would deplore the actions of someone who was neglecting patients to the point of euthanizing them. CARP’s advocates: Moses Znaimer and Wanda Morris have stumped for euthanasia, so the two situations – the magazine and its political position and Wettlaufer’s actions – are related. The article says that what Wettlaufer did was ‘shocking’. Canada’s euthanasia law and Carp's pro-euthanasia position is also shocking.


Thursday, October 11, 2018

Canadian Association of Retired Persons is pressuring governments to force medical institutions to kill.

Alex Schadenberg
Executive Director - Euthanasia Prevention Coalition



The Canadian Association of Retired Persons (CARP) released its policy platform for the 2019 Federal election. 

CARP is focusing on 19 areas for action including pressuring the government to force every medical institution that receives government funding to provide euthanasia, also known as Medical Assistance in Dying (MAiD).

The CARP "Exceptional Health Care" policy includes to:  Make Accessible End-of-Life Care a Right (page 21 of the platform). 

This platform statement first demands palliative care for everyone:
Make access to palliative care a right so that all Canadians can access it regardless of where they live or receive care, including rural, remote and indigenous communities.
The platform then demands that all publicly funded medical institutions provide euthanasia:
Ensure access to medical assistance in dying (euthanasia) is provided at publicly-funded institutions and available to Canadians regardless of where they live or receive care.
By demanding that every funded medical institution provide euthanasia they are then demanding that every religiously affiliated, every palliative care and every long-term care medical institution provide euthanasia.

Promoting euthanasia is not new for CARP.


Wanda Morris
CARP officially became a pro-euthanasia advocacy group in January 2016 when CARP fired Susan Eng, the long-time Executive VP of CARP. Moses Znaimer, the President of CARP, disagreed with Eng's neutral position on euthanasia. Znaimer then hired Wanda Morris, the CEO of the euthanasia lobby group - Dying with Dignity to replace Eng.

In July 2018, Wanda Morris, the current Executive VP of CARP, published an article attacking palliative care institutions and services refusing to provide euthanasia. Morris argued that euthanasia respects the Hippocratic tradition and argued that refusing to do euthanasia causes harm to patients.

Saturday, July 7, 2018

Canadian Association of Retired Persons (CARP) promotes euthanasia and attacks palliative care.

Alex Schadenberg
Executive Director - Euthanasia Prevention Coalition



The Canadian Association of Retired Persons (CARP) has gone overboard in promoting euthanasia. In 2016, CARP hired Wanda Morris, who at that time was the CEO of the euthanasia lobby group Dying With Dignity, as CARP's VP of advocacy.
CARP which is a national, non-partisan, non-profit organization was essentially neutral on euthanasia until Moses Znaimer, the former owner of CITY TV, took over CARP.


The recent article by Wanda Morris promotes euthanasia while attacking palliative care institutions and medical providers who are not willing to kill their patients by euthanasia. Morris writes:
Palliative care practitioners bravely pioneered a critical role. They believed that, just because a disease was incurable, the patient should not be left to suffer. By palliating, or lessening, symptoms, these doctors and nurses helped patients die gentler, more peaceful deaths. 
Those in palliative care spent time, effort and energy communicating with their peers and the public: we are not here to bring about your death but to help you die well. Palliative care proponents stated they would neither hasten nor postpone death. 
In the context of history, this position made a lot of sense. But it is still being used today — even though our medical landscape has changed significantly.
Thanks to a Supreme Court of Canada ruling in 2015 and subsequent federal legislation, Medical Assistance in Dying (MAiD) is now legal in Canada. While the legalization of assisted dying had overwhelming public support (84 per cent in favour) among both CARP members and the general public, many in palliative care, such as Nancy Macey, executive director of the Delta Hospice Society in B.C., have gone on record as saying it is undermining their ability to provide end-of-life care and want nothing to do with it. 
This is causing real harm to patients because these hospitals and hospices are preventing patients from accessing an assisted death on their premises.
Wanda Morris
Dying with Dignity, former CEO
Morris is stating that hospices and medical care givers who refuse to lethally inject patients are causing harm. She is intentionally undermining the Hippocratic tradition by suggesting that not killing is harming patients:

I will use treatment to help the sick according to my ability and judgment, but never with a view to injury and wrong-doing. Neither will I administer a poison to anybody when asked to do so, nor will I suggest such a course.
Morris then coyly interviews Shanaaz Gokool, who became CEO of the euthanasia lobby group, Dying With Dignity after Morris was hired by CARP, who said:
According to Gokool, a number of publicly funded health-care facilities across the country are refusing to provide assisted dying. Some, like the palliative care unit at St. Michael’s Hospital in Toronto, refuse to allow patients access to medical assistance in dying for religious reasons.
Gokool attacks a palliative care unit that is known for its excellence in care because they refuse to kill their patients. Morris completed her article by stating:
Tragically and ironically, the hospice movement — born out of the need to alleviate patient suffering — is, in some cases, causing suffering in patients who choose an assisted death.
Clearly CARP is more concerned about promoting euthanasia than caring about the needs of people who are approaching death.

CARP has lost their way. Canadians need to abandon their memberships in CARP.

Sunday, April 10, 2016

CARP assisted dying poll results may be skewed.

Alex Schadenberg
Executive Director, Euthanasia Prevention Coalition


The Canadian Association of Retired Persons (CARP) may have skewed the results of their assisted dying poll. 

As a CARP member, I was sent a link to the "assisted dying" poll on March 3. Even though CARP claimed that it was a "members poll", the link to the poll could be accessed by anyone. After answering the poll questions I was shocked by the radically pro-euthanasia results.

Late that evening, I checked the poll results and noticed that there were already more than 5000 responses with the results remaining unbelievably one-sided.

Susan Eng
On January 27, Moses Znaimer, the President & CEO of CARP, fired Susan Eng, the CARP executive VP, based on her neutral stand on assisted dying and Znaimer replaced Eng with Wanda Morris, the CEO of Dying With Dignity, a euthanasia lobby group.

Considering the recent official poll results 
as compared to the Nanos poll and the Angus Reid Institute Survey, my assertion seems likely.

According to the CARP poll 80% stated that publicly funded health care institutions, including hospices and long-term care homes should participate in assisted dying. The Angus Reid Institute Survey found that 68% oppose forcing religiously affiliated hospitals to participate and 62% oppose forcing nursing homes to participate.

According to the CARP poll 85% stated that waiting periods should be flexible, while the Angus Reid Institute survey found that 88% support waiting periods.

According to the CARP poll 87% stated that a doctor must refer a patient for an assisted death, while the Nanos poll found that 75% support doctors having the right to opt-out from participating in assisted death.

Since the CARP poll could be done by anyone (even though it claimed to be a members survey) and the Angus Reid survey and the Nanos poll were scientifically done based on representative samples, it seems likely that the CARP poll was intentionally skewed.

Thursday, January 28, 2016

CARP is now a pro-euthanasia advocacy group.

By Alex Schadenberg
Executive Director - Euthanasia Prevention Coalition

Susan Eng
The Canadian Association of Retired Persons (CARP) under the leadership of Moses Znaimer, the former owner of CITY TV, has officially become an advocacy group promoting unfettered euthanasia.

According to an article by Gloria Galloway in the Globe and Mail, Susan Eng, the long-time Executive Vice President of CARP was fired by Moses Znaimer based on her neutral position on euthanasia and assisted suicide and replaced by Wanda Morris, the former CEO of Dying With Dignity. According to the article:
The woman who has been the public face of Canada’s leading seniors organization for the past eight years says she has been dismissed by media mogul Moses Znaimer, who is also the organization’s president, because she insisted on taking a neutral approach to the emotionally charged issue of assisted dying. 
Susan Eng was told on Tuesday that she was no longer needed as the executive vice-president of advocacy at CARP Canada. She then learned on Wednesday that she was being replaced by Wanda Morris, the head of Dying with Dignity Canada, which advocates for access to physician-assisted dying and against unnecessary barriers when safeguards are being imposed to protect the vulnerable. 
... “The only reason he fired me was so that they can put out an official position for CARP saying that they want to insist on assisted dying on demand,” said Ms. Eng, a Toronto lawyer and former chair of the city’s police services board.
Znaimer has been promoting a radical pro-euthanasia position for some time. He his written one-sided propaganda articles urging "euthanasia on demand." Znaimer also wrote an article misconstruing the Bentley case in BC, a case that concerned the issue of whether normal feeding is medical treatment. 

Many seniors are members of CARP to enjoy the travel, insurance and other benefits that are obtained through a CARP membership. Many seniors will now not renew their CARP membership or seeking an alternative organization to attain similar benefits.

Canadian seniors need to know that purchasing a membership in CARP is actually supporting a euthanasia advocacy group.

The CARP media release stated:
A New Vision of Aging for Canada, Chairman, President and CEO Moses Znaimertoday announced that Susan Eng has departed CARP effective immediately. 
Moses has also announced that Wanda Morris has been appointed as CARP’s new Vice President of Advocacy and COO. 
Most recently, Wanda was CEO of Dying With Dignity Canada (DWD Canada) where she led a strategic campaign for legislative change leading up to the Supreme Court of Canada’s decision in the ground-breaking Carter v. Canadacase for the right-to-die with dignity.
Dying With Dignity also changed its position while under the leadership of Wanda Morris. Historically, Dying With Dignity officially supported assisted suicide but opposed euthanasia. Dying With Dignity is now a radical supporter of euthanasia.

Last year Dying With Dignity lost its charitable status based on the fact that had become a political lobby group and their purpose ceased being charitable. It is possible that Znaimer hired Morris because Dying With Dignity was unable to continue paying her a competitive salary.

Friday, August 3, 2012

DWD newsletter accuses the Euthanasia Prevention Coalition of lying.

By: Alex Schadenberg, Executive Director - Euthanasia Prevention Coalition

In the June 2012 edition of the Dying with Dignity newsletter, Wanda Morris, the executive director of Dying with Dignity states that EPC bases its arguments on Lies, Damn Lies and fear mongering.

Morris ought to look in the mirror when she accuses EPC of lying or fear mongering.

When I debated Morris in Saskatoon, she gave a false explanation of the Nancy B case in 1992. She didn't know that the case was a respirator case and that Nancy B had Guillan Barre Syndrome. As for Fear Mongering, Morris based her arguments on stories of people who suffered terrible deaths and inferred that people have two choices, legalizing assisted suicide or dying with pain and suffering. This is a false equation. Further to that, she constantly referred to people who oppose euthanasia and assisted suicides as religious. (I guess it is easier to label the opponent than to debate the opponent).

She spoke about a farmer who blew his head off with a gun and other horrific stories.

Further to that, when I was explaining the results of a study that concluded that 32% of all euthanasia deaths in the Flanders region of Belgium were without request or consent, she stated that this was my study. I responded that the study was published in the Canadian Medical Association Journal - May 2010.

I knew that I was doing well in the debate when Morris stated that I lacked compassion because I opposed euthanasia and assisted suicide in all circumstances. Low blow Wanda, too bad it proved to the audience that you were getting desperate.

Morris wasn't attempting to debate me, but rather she was trying to scare the audience with her horrific stories knowing that most Canadians who support euthanasia and assisted suicide do so out of fear of suffering. She claims that EPC focuses on fear-mongering and not facts. During the debate she was nearly crying while reading one of her stories and she had few facts to share with the audience.

Morris states in the June 2012 DWD newsletter:
"Or take the case of the EPC's Alex Schadenberg in a guest editorial to the National Post. For example, he described how certain individuals had been assisted to die without their consent in the Netherlands. He failed to disclose that the percentage of deaths without consent in The Netherlands had actually gone down since legalization and was significantly lower than countries such as New Zealand and Australia, which did not have legalized assistance to die. Don't newspapers have to check the truth of what they publish, even if in a guest editorial?" (Sorry for the grammatical errors, I was copying her comment word for word).
Did I lie in my article that was published in the National Post? Link to the article.

My article in the National Post did not refer to the deaths without request or consent statistics in the Netherlands which indicate that there were 950 deaths without request or consent in 2001, 550 deaths without request or consent in 2005 and 310 deaths without request or consent in 2010. 

My article refered to the Belgium statistics that conclude that 32% of all euthanasia deaths in the Flanders region of Belgium are without request or consent.

I did refer to a study from the Netherlands that was published in the Journal of Clinical Oncology that concluded that people with a depressed mood were 4.1 times more likely to request euthanasia. The depression study from the Netherlands did not reference the issue of deaths without request or consent.

I guess it is Morris that is lying in her newsletter or maybe she responded to my article without reading it, such as her comment about Nancy B in the Saskatoon debate.

I could go on, but what is most galling is her reference to Professor Margaret Pabst-Battin, a long-time euthanasia advocate who published a false study in 2007 concerning safeguards in the Netherlands and in Oregon.

Morris states in the June 2012 DWD newsletter:
Professor Margaret Pabst-Battin led a team of researchers that looked in detail at the deaths in both these jurisdictions (Netherlands and Oregon) and concluded that the safeguards are indeed working. There will always be polarized views on both sides of the discussion - what we can and must do is educate the neutrals about facts - not overblown fears. We will continue to do so.
Wanda Morris
DWD and Wanda Morris need to stick to the facts. Their tactics are to find the most extreme and emotionally upsetting stories, to deny the facts about what is occurring in the jurisdictions where it is legal, to deny the reality of how legalizing euthanasia and assisted suicide can result in the death of others, such as people who are: depressed, social devalued, victims of elder abuse, etc.

They then accuse us of lying. Morris needs to look into the mirror and she needs to be very careful with making false and misleading statements about EPC and others.

P.S. - The only religious zealot that debated in Saskatoon was Morris. I did not bring up any issues related to faith or ethics, I only debated the facts.

Friday, May 4, 2012

Alex Schadenberg debates Assisted Suicide in Saskatoon

Alex Schadenberg
The following article was written by Lana Haight and published in the Saskatoon StarPhoenix reporting on the debate between Alex Schadenberg of the Euthanasia Prevention Coalition and Wanda Morris from Dying with Dignity on May 3, 2012 at the Frances Morrison Public Library in Saskatoon. The article is short but accurate.

Speakers Debate Assisted Suicide 
The issues in a British Columbia court case over doctor-assisted suicide made their way to a Saskatoon lecture hall Thursday night. 
"It's a really timely issue," said George Williamson, advocacy officer with the Saskatoon branch of the Centre for Inquiry. 
The organization sponsored a debate at Frances Morrison Public Library between Wanda Morris, the executive director of Dying with Dignity Canada, and Alex Schadenberg, the executive director of the Euthanasia Prevention Coalition. 
The B.C. Supreme Court is deliberating over a case that includes a woman with amyotrophic lateral sclerosis (ALS), or Lou Gehrig's disease, who wants to be able to decide when to end her life with the assistance of a doctor. While the court is expected to release its judgment later this spring, the decision will be appealed to the Supreme Court of Canada, say Morris and Schadenberg. 
For Morris, the issue comes down to choice and compassion. 
"Choice, independence, autonomy is the fundamental cornerstone of modern medicine. In a situation where someone is grievously ill at end of life, we think they should have the right, the choice, to end their suffering with assistance, if they choose, (and) of course with safeguards in place to make sure we protect the weak and vulnerable," said Morris in an interview before the debate. 
But Schadenberg says it's bad public policy to legalize assisted suicide. 
"We have the Charter of Rights and Freedoms and we are all equal under the law. If assisted suicide is available to one group in Canada, it will be available to all groups in Canada," he said in an interview before the debate. 
"The (current) law is clearly designed to protect vulnerable people. Suicide is not illegal, but assisting somebody in suicide is illegal, and the idea is clear about protecting vulnerable people. It's important that we uphold these protections." 
He says changing the law to allow assisted suicide protects the one doing the assisting, not the one being assisted. 
Euthanasia, where someone administers a lethal substance to bring about death, or assisted suicide, where someone provides that substance for the individual to administer themselves, is available in five jurisdictions worldwide: Oregon, Washington, Belgium, the Netherlands and Luxembourg. 
Both speakers looked at cases from these jurisdictions to support their positions. Morris said the laws are working in other places whereas Schadenberg said the laws weren't working. 
About 80 people participated in the debate, which ended with a question-and-answer session. 
lhaight@thestarphoenix.com
This is a youtube link to the debate between Margaret Dore, Choice is an Illusion, and Wanda Morris, Dying with Dignity a couple of weeks before the Saskatoon debate.  Youtube link.

Thursday, April 19, 2012

Assisted suicide: debate deals with abuse, compassion

Wanda Morris and Margaret Dore (left).
Last night, Margaret Dore, a lawyer from Seattle Washington and leader of the group - Choice is an Illusion, debated Wanda Morris from Dying with Dignity Canada in Kamloops BC. Tonight Margaret Dore and Wanda Morris are continuing their debate in Kelowna BC.

The Kamloop Daily News reporter, Mike Youds, wrote the following article today:

Margaret Dore shared some of her experiences with assisted suicide in Washington State, where the practice became legal through a ballot measure four years ago.

“A lot of people think this is a great idea until they start thinking and reading about how you do it,” she told an audience of about 30 people in the Irving K. Barber Centre.

In effect, laws in Washington and Oregon empower people who may choose to abuse the responsibility, Dore said.
 “Your heir can be there to help you sign up. Once the legal dose leaves the pharmacy, there is no oversight whatsoever.”
Wanda Morris, head of the Canadian charity Dying With Dignity, advocated for the right to choose to end life humanely.
“These are individuals who want to live, but they are individuals facing a horrific death,” she said. “The fundamental difference is choice. Choice is important in Canada. Why is it, at the time of life when we’re facing our toughest decision we could ever make, that choice is taken away?”
The issue has long been debated in Canada, where two years ago Parliament easily defeated a bill that would have permitted assisted suicide and euthanasia. Recently the subject has made headlines again with two court high-profile court cases in B.C. and Quebec.
“Autonomy is such a critical value, it is a cornerstone of modern medicine,” Morris continued. “Nothing can be done without consent. And yet here, at the end of life, I’m not given that choice.”
Dore said she agrees that people should have the right to choose how they die, but the U.S. laws don’t give that. Four days after the Washington State law passed, the adult son of a care facility resident showed up asking how “to get them pills,” she said.
“Who’s choice?,” she asked rhetorically. An adult child can administer the lethal dose with no one else to tell whether it was a matter of consent. “There is no oversight over administration.”
Morris insisted that the law her organization has long pushed for would only apply to individuals with six months or less to live. Dore countered that such a restriction does not apply in the U.S. and pointed to a case where an Oregon woman, who was talked out of suicide by her doctor, remains thankful she has survived another 12 years.

There was a $5.4-million lobby for assisted suicide in Washington, a machine that was up against a volunteer group, she said.
“In Canada and the U.S., there is a very significant funder in this debate and it is the Catholic church,” Morris said.
Opponents of assisted suicide argue from dogmatic positions and cannot be satisfied, she said.

“Excuse me, but I never said anything about Catholic dogma,” Dore replied.

She warned that Canada, having rejected the idea in Parliament, is facing the possibility of legislating it through the courts with the Carter and Leblanc court cases.

“We have a blank slate and we can write in whatever controls we want to protect the weak and the vulnerable,” Morris said.

Tuesday, April 17, 2012

Saskatoon Assisted Suicide Debate - May 3.

Debate: Should Assisted Suicide be legalized in Canada?

When: May 3, 2012 - 
Doors open at 6:30 pm - Debate begins at 7 pm.

Where: Saskatoon Saskatchewan
Frances Morrison Public Library.
311 - 23rd St. E - In the Theatre downstairs.

Admission: $10 or $5 for students.

Debaters:
Wanda Morris - Executive Director - Dying With Dignity

Wanda Morris
Alex Schadenberg - Executive Director - Euthanasia Prevention Coalition

Moderator: A member of the University of Saskatchewan debate society.

Sponsored by: Centre for Inquiry, Dying With Dignity, Euthanasia Prevention Coalition

Tuesday, April 10, 2012

Debates on euthanasia and assisted suicide scheduled in BC and Alberta.


A series of debates on euthanasia and assisted suicide have been sponsored by the Centre for Inquiry. We need our supporters to attend these debates to ask good questions from the audience and support our debaters.
Dr. Will Johnston
Vancouver BC: Thursday, April 12, 2012
Dr. Will Johnston, President Euthanasia Prevention Coalition - BC is debating Wanda Morris from (Dying with Dignity)
Time: 7:00 pm
Location: Simon Fraser University
Venue: SFU-Harbourside Campus Room 1900; 515 West Hastings Street, V6B 5K3

Roy Green Show - Corus Radio Network. (Phone in)
Sunday, April 15, 2012 (11:05 am Pacific Time)
Dr. Will Johnston, President Euthanasia Prevention Coalition - BC is debating Wanda Morris from (Dying with Dignity)

Kamloops BC: Wednesday, April 18, 2012
Margaret Dore
Margaret Dore, President of "Choice is an Illusion" - Washington state is debating Wanda Morris from (Dying with Dignity)
Time: 7:00 pm
Location: 900 McGill Road, Kamloops BC.
Venue: Irving K. Barber Centre, Thompson Rivers University

Kelowna BC: Thursday, April 19, 2012
Margaret Dore, President of "Choice is an Illusion" - Washington state is debating Wanda Morris from (Dying with Dignity)
Time: 7:00 pm
Location: Mary Irwin Theatre, at the Rotary Centre for the Arts
Venue: 421 Cawston Avenue, Kelowna, BC.

Calgary Alberta: Sunday, April 22, 2012
Dr. Will Johnston, President Euthanasia Prevention Coalition - BC is debating Wanda Morris from (Dying with Dignity)
Time: 3:30 pm
Location: Science Theatre Bldg, Room ST140
Venue: University of Calgary, 2500 University Dr. N.W., Calgary