tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9216787076261944467.post5134571697465208165..comments2024-03-28T09:15:04.144-04:00Comments on Euthanasia Prevention Coalition: Article supporting euthanasia for mental illness provides excellent argument against euthanasia.Alex Schadenberghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07649977828342637842noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9216787076261944467.post-24796715019873232092022-03-15T18:20:24.376-04:002022-03-15T18:20:24.376-04:00Furthermore an issue with your blog is that in man...Furthermore an issue with your blog is that in many entries you do not give full context and neglect to mention important details which would give your readers a different opinion.<br /><br />For example take the case of the Nova Scotia Christian woman who tried to gaslight her mentally competent husband with end-stage COPD that requested MAID and prevent him from accessing. The husband went through a mental assessment. You posted about it on your blog here and represented her: https://alexschadenberg.blogspot.com/2020/09/nova-scotia-case-continues-katherine-is.html<br /><br />And what was not mentioned on your blog was the """"doctor"""" Katherine consulted was unlicensed, had zero qualifications, and was the son of a church friend. It was clearly religiously motivated under the Christian belief that suffering that is a blessing from God and she had zero grounds to try and block it: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/nova-scotia-medical-assistance-in-dying-bridgewater-couple-court-1.5700203 <br /><br />Your blog routinely leaves out important details and context that would paint a very different picture.dougsnedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12547096894371796838noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9216787076261944467.post-38484004058974409332022-03-12T20:09:46.589-05:002022-03-12T20:09:46.589-05:00I didn't say that they weren't less likely...I didn't say that they weren't less likely to pursue treatment options only that the great majority did in fact consult with cancer specialists. And in near-certain likelihood those consultations with oncologists would've involved discussions of cancer treatments like chemo, biomarker therapy, and such with the likelihood of success of for such treatments and how much additional months it would buy for them. Thus concluding that these treatments wouldn't suffice thus opting for PAS instead. Otherwise what would the consultations between the patient and oncologists consist of? "Hello I think I may have cancer" "Yes you do" "Oh, ok thank you" "No problem, bye"<br /><br />My point is that you cannot deny the fact that the great majority consulted with cancer specialists and made a considered and reasoned choice. But that doesn't matter, because like I said even if this percentage was as low as 5% or a law was passed tomorrow that required mandatory assessment for chemo, biomarker and what else for terminal cancer requests for MAID you'd still be complaining and agitating for a ban.dougsnedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12547096894371796838noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9216787076261944467.post-33717795433248633942022-03-12T16:05:22.533-05:002022-03-12T16:05:22.533-05:00Nobody said anything about non-voluntary euthanasi...Nobody said anything about non-voluntary euthanasia Doug. I know you like to accuse people who oppose killing of many inaccuracies when my article was completely accurate. Here is what I wrote:<br /><br />According to Susman, Moore's research found that 20% of those who died by euthanasia did not consult a radiation oncologist and 22% did not consult a medical oncologist. Susman further reports:<br /><br />"Biomarker-driven targeted therapy and immunotherapy offer effective and tolerable new treatments, but a subset of patients undergo medical assistance in dying without accessing -- or, in some cases, without being assessed for -- these treatment options," Moore continued. "Most patients were assessed by an oncology specialist, though less than half received systemic therapy."<br /><br />"Given the growing number of efficacious and well-tolerated treatment options in lung cancer, consultation with an oncologist may be reasonable to consider for all patients with lung cancer who request medical assistance in dying," she said.<br />Further to that 13 of the 45 lung cancer patients who died by euthanasia did not have a biopsy to confirm the diagnosis.Alex Schadenberghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07649977828342637842noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9216787076261944467.post-86622134782336633782022-03-12T15:17:27.492-05:002022-03-12T15:17:27.492-05:00Here's a link to the original article: https:/...Here's a link to the original article: https://www.medpagetoday.com/meetingcoverage/iaslc/94429<br /><br />I quote: "In a Canadian study of 45 individuals diagnosed with lung cancer who used medical assistance in dying (also known as physician-assisted suicide), about 20% did not have a radiation oncologist involved when making the decision and 22% did not have a consultation with a medical oncologist, said Sara Moore, MD, of Ottawa Hospital Research Institute of the University of Ottawa."<br /><br />The great majority of that 45 DID consult with an oncologist prior to their MAID request. Only about 20% didn't. Some didn't consult with an oncologist sure, but the great majority (about 80% did). I never said that all of these 45 patients consulted with a specialist in my prior comment, only that the great majority did.<br /><br />All of this is irrelevant however. Even if this percentage was as low as 4% you'd still run an article about that calling for MAID to be banned. Just like how you think that because the vast majority of MAID requests in Ontario were administered by healthcare workers instead of the patient consuming the drugs themselves, it would somehow imply that these people were all strapped down to a gurney and killed non-voluntarily like an execution by lethal injection in the US. Even if all of those deaths were self-administered you'd still be complainingdougsnedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12547096894371796838noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9216787076261944467.post-78006466393535457592022-03-11T21:23:57.861-05:002022-03-11T21:23:57.861-05:00Sorry, Doug your wrong.
The study found that some ...Sorry, Doug your wrong.<br />The study found that some of the 45 who died by euthanasia did not have their prognosis confirmed and those who died by euthanasia were less likely to accept treatment than those who decided not to die by euthanasia.<br /><br />I didn't base my comments on the newsppaer articles but rather the data from the study itself and my comments are correct.<br /><br />Don't correct me if you don't know what your talking about.<br /><br />You didn't even bother reading what I originally wrote about the data from the study.Alex Schadenberghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07649977828342637842noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9216787076261944467.post-15243213753738563452022-03-11T14:41:15.145-05:002022-03-11T14:41:15.145-05:00"For instance, a study by Dr Sara Moore, a Un..."For instance, a study by Dr Sara Moore, a University of Ottawa medical oncologist examined 45 euthanasia (MAiD) deaths of people with lung cancer living in the Ottawa region. She concluded that people with lung cancer who died by euthanasia were less likely to consult with a radiation or medical oncologist, many did not seek a confirmation of their condition and they were less likely to undergo effective treatments."<br /><br />Actually this study shows that the majority of people diagnosed with terminal illness who requested and recieved MAID actually DID confirm their diagnosis with other oncologists. As well as try other treatments beforehand. The percentage was actually a little bit over 80%, and anyone can click on that link and read the paper themselves. Do you even read the papers that you cite?dougsnedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12547096894371796838noreply@blogger.com